"There's another culture that came after ours that had a pithy saying about that," Chiron says with real warmth in his voice. "It translates as through difficulties, to the stars."

It's a good and enduring phrase. Good on the Latins for saying it.

"Ah. Five more minutes. And some sample gathering, I think."

[ooc: I think we can call it here and roll over to the salon!]